defense attorney joey jackson is joining me talk about this. why would they turn away anybody who was a good samaritan on 9/11 and has cancer? >> it's so true. it's a question of proof. people who were there and served and so many first responders helped to keep people safe. it changed how we live, think and communicate. it was a terrible day. we'll just never forget it. but the issue is whether people who were volunteers there could in good faith prove that they were volunteering. >> what kind of proof are you talking about? we're talking about evidence in a civil case? >> yes. unfortunately, there's so many people honest and well that's not unfortunate. what's unfortunate is you have the few very who might fabricate. so what happens is a compensation fund says, listen, we understand you may have ailments. we understand you may have been there, and we certainly want to assist you as you assisted us. however, we need two affidavits sworn to and signed by two witnesses who observed, a, that you were there, and b, the nature of the work doing. th